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Post by tsuki on Jan 14, 2007 0:04:21 GMT -5
Sorry, you all just have so many characters, it's hard to keep up. Editing post.
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Post by geneamada on Jan 14, 2007 22:11:58 GMT -5
Is there a reason why if someone wants something nerfed, then something else HAS to be nerfed along with it?
I'm tired of hearing "Well, if you're going to nerf blah blah blah, you should nerf bleh bleh bleh!"
So dumb. >>;
Also, I WoE on my sniper when I'm bored, Jason.
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Post by tsuki on Jan 15, 2007 7:32:04 GMT -5
Actually, funny story.
I played a sever where they did that, nerf after nerf spiraling down into WoE failing hardcore. But it's an attempt at balancing. With say, as the only example, the delay after storm gust, Lord Knights need to have their ASPD reduced because one of the few things that can take them berserked won't work anymore. Delays cause no magic, no magic cause a free run at your face, sword included.
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Post by geneamada on Jan 15, 2007 15:47:24 GMT -5
The increased zoom will probably never be resolved, because it's so easy to make a custom .exe these days.
I have one in my folder that gives 100x zoom, and it took maybe 3 minutes to make.
And I personally don't see any point in nerfing something that hasn't been nerfed in the official RO servers, except the GTB nerf, and that's just because the f'ed up ratios.
I don't think GTB should be banned from WoE, but I think a 50% magic redux during WoE would be adequate.
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Post by Pastel on Jan 15, 2007 19:10:27 GMT -5
The increased zoom will probably never be resolved, because it's so easy to make a custom .exe these days. I have one in my folder that gives 100x zoom, and it took maybe 3 minutes to make. And I personally don't see any point in nerfing something that hasn't been nerfed in the official RO servers, except the GTB nerf, and that's just because the f'ed up ratios. I don't think GTB should be banned from WoE, but I think a 50% magic redux during WoE would be adequate. 50% sounds good to me. As long as the card still has value to it during war.
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Post by hilo85 on Jan 16, 2007 17:16:20 GMT -5
Woot, one of my suggestions is liked!!! No, but seriously though, anything from 191 to 199 attack speed is rediculous. Especially with the insane damage LK's can already pull off. The only class I really play is scholar (High Templar) and sure dispell works great most of the time to screw them, but if I dont get a phen glove or instant cast or an armor that reduces whatever damage the LK happens to be using, then as soon as he gets close to me its 1000+ damage at 199 aspd and I'm alive for a little over a second. Besides, I only have so many yellow gems to use dispell with. As long as they have a few blue pots, they can quickly re-frenzy and restore all of their hp.
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Post by tsuki on Jan 16, 2007 20:04:11 GMT -5
Woot, one of my suggestions is liked!!! No, but seriously though, anything from 191 to 199 attack speed is rediculous. Especially with the insane damage LK's can already pull off. The only class I really play is scholar (High Templar) and sure dispell works great most of the time to screw them, but if I dont get a phen glove or instant cast or an armor that reduces whatever damage the LK happens to be using, then as soon as he gets close to me its 1000+ damage at 199 aspd and I'm alive for a little over a second. Besides, I only have so many yellow gems to use dispell with. As long as they have a few blue pots, they can quickly re-frenzy and restore all of their hp. That's why you implement a 1-minute delay after using Frenzy, cured by logging out or dying. I once saw a LK tank an entire guild, not using a single white pot. They switched from Frenzy to spamming Blue Potions to Frenzy. It was damn near impossible to kill.
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Post by Allen on Jan 17, 2007 0:24:57 GMT -5
(About the GTB thing) An effect like this would make it more useless than a Thara Frog Card, seeing as a Thara Frog Card not only effects magic attacks but other skills/attacks as well. Using a Thara Card would also reduce the cost of skills by half when used instead of a Golden Thiefbug Card. The only reason to use a Golden Thiefbug Card is to get by wizards. It sacrifices your defence against every other class and doubles your sp consumption just to get by one class. With fast enough cast, a Wizard can kill almost every other class quite easily, so why take away the only defence some people have against them? (I love copy/paste )
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Post by tsuki on Jan 17, 2007 15:07:40 GMT -5
Read the two posts above yours. Talk about off-topic. Oh, wait, that's off topic too. Dayum.
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Post by Pastel on Jan 18, 2007 19:18:20 GMT -5
-Just remembered.
GTB double's SP. So I am against the -50%. I say -80% MATK damage on you to make it more fair, or -50% from spells and demi-human.
This way the 2x SP use is more, worth it. Or better yet, to make it all simpler, leave as is. Flash doesn't have GTB anymore, so its just Mango/Necrophilia. Not much to complain, Kaizoku doesnt attack other castles [normally]. We defend Kriemhild. We only attack to take the castle back.
So new compormise -80% damage from spells, or -50% from spells as well as -50% from demi human.
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Post by tsuki on Jan 18, 2007 21:53:50 GMT -5
No.
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Post by Allen on Jan 19, 2007 1:21:27 GMT -5
I like the second one better D: I vote for the second one.
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Post by flash on Jan 23, 2007 22:56:25 GMT -5
Problem: Pikachu Ears Broken Description: Pikachu Ears are broken. Who is involved: Pikachu ear owners(me)
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Post by Ducky on Jan 24, 2007 1:18:46 GMT -5
There hasn't been any complaints on the 196 ASPD lately, so I'll just say that it's temporarily closed.
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Post by Daikirai on Jan 24, 2007 1:34:37 GMT -5
I'll complain that I don't have 196 aspd :]
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